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The Twitch Streamer on Discord

by Alex

the Nerd Love Story of Luna and Jason

💬 Finding love on Discord is possible. Even if your Player 2 is the streamer who created the server. That said, there are some things you should keep in mind and that you want to avoid. After all, you can’t meet anyone in person if you get banned! 📵

In this episode, GamerMomLuna and Jason share how they went from a Twitch chat NPC to streamer relationship to a co-op campaign building a life under the same roof 🏡 It wasn’t an overnight evolution, and it wasn’t planned, either.

🖥️ Jason had been watching Luna’s streams and participating in the chat for a while before deciding to join her Discord. There, he was just another member joining random conversations. One day, a single thread turned into an epic-long dialogue. The rest of the server wasn’t invested, but they’d rolled a natural 20 on connection. It was time to move to a private conversation 🤫

☝️ They are the perfect example of how to transition from regular chat to DM. It’s not about finding an excuse good enough to slide into someone’s DMs. After all, they can block you, report you, or ghost you. It’s about knowing that they want to hear from you as much as you want to hear from them 🙂‍↕️

Once there, the usual conversation rules apply. Talk about your shared passions, and get to know the person behind the screen. Eventually, the curiosity might kick in, and you can go on a date, hang out, or even invite them to your next TTRPG session! 🎲

🧱 Leveling up a relationship through Discord may be slightly different, but in the end… we’re all just humans looking for our Player 2 🕹️

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Donate to Extra Life:

https://www.extra-life.org/participant/GamerMom-Luna

Luna’s Links:

  • https://linktr.ee/GamerMomLuna
  • https://www.twitch.tv/gamermomluna
  • https://www.youtube.com/@GamerMomLuna
  • https://www.threads.net/@gamermomluna
  • https://www.instagram.com/gamermomluna
  • https://www.tiktok.com/@thegamermomluna

Related Blog Posts:

  • Find Love Through Online Games, with Kaylee Lopez
  • The TTRPG Group
  • Rejected, Friendzoned, and Not Reading the Signals
  • Find Your Nerd Community

Timestamps for lazy nerds:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:00:43 What Makes Them Nerds
  • 00:02:01 Twitch Streamer’s Discord
  • 00:06:16 Transitioning to DMs
  • 00:10:11 More Than Friends
  • 00:13:41 First Date
  • 00:19:23 Making it Official
  • 00:21:54 Avoiding The Friend Zone
  • 00:26:48 From Discord to DMs
  • 00:28:20 Extra Life

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Dating, Nerd Love Stories, Relationships

Cosplayers and Conventions

by Alex

the Nerd Love Story of Elyse and Matt

🦸 One convention might not be enough to get to know someone. But as you start attending more often and keeping in touch with everyone, feelings can start to develop. In the case of cosplayers, their passion for specific characters is just one more thing for them to bond over 😍

Elyse was introduced to Matt by her group of cosplayer friends. They got along well and exchanged contacts on the spot 📱 However, it took a decade for them to end up together! Times just didn’t align. It took several encounters and a friend’s wedding for them to start chatting more often. Funnily enough, they never confessed their feelings. Matt just assumed they were dating and decided to make it public! 😱

📝 This story is a great example of how making friends and meeting someone many different times can help you find your Player 2. It’s not necessary to jump at someone attractive the first time you see them. Because even if you didn’t click or didn’t get their number the first time, there might be a next. It’s not guaranteed. There’s always an element of luck. But if that person was a part of your group of friends, you’ll roll with advantage 🎲

Being part of a group of friends doesn’t mean seeing the same people at the same recurring events, though 👀 It means developing relationships with them where you all meet to do different activities and get to know each other in different contexts. In their case, Elyse and Matt not only met at conventions, but the pivotal point was their friend’s wedding. Not a convention. 💒

💡Did you meet someone you wanted to talk to but didn’t get to? There could be another time! 🤩

🎧 Press Start and see how cosplaying and conventions could lead to your Player 2!

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Elyse’s Links:

https://linktr.ee/princessbilbo
https://www.instagram.com/princessbilbo
https://www.facebook.com/PrincessBilbo
https://www.threads.net/@princessbilbo
https://www.tiktok.com/@princessbilbo

Related Episodes:

  • Finding Your Nerd Community, with Jose: https://www.datelikeanerd.com/podcast/nerd-community/
  • The Tolkien Association: Where to Meet Nerds, with Vir: https://www.datelikeanerd.com/podcast/the-tolkien-association/

Timestamps for lazy nerds:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:00:58 What Makes Elyse a Nerd
  • 00:02:38 Cosplayers Introducing Each Other
  • 00:06:13 Asking for the Number
  • 00:07:47 First Impression
  • 00:09:57 Schroedinger Date
  • 00:14:15 Mismatched Timings
  • 00:16:49 Going Public Online
  • 00:19:28 Dating as Asexual
  • 00:21:23 Closing

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Charisma, Conventions, cosplay, Dating, Nerd Love Stories, Relationships

Find Your Nerd Community

by Alex

Where to Meet Nerds, with Jose

🔎 Finding your community can sometimes be challenging. Even within the same hobby, different groups may be polar opposites. Even within the Argentine Tolkien Association, the online forum didn’t always fit with the association 🧩

In this episode, I bring Jose back to talk about how we found a place where each of us felt we belonged 😌 Not feeling like we fit in with most people around us growing up, in the Argentine Tolkien Association we found those who made us feel appreciated and welcomed. Even if we didn’t “fit the popular norm.” 🥰

🧪 Sometimes, finding your people may take trial and error. Some communities have a demographic younger or older than what you’d like, or the people might have values that don’t match yours, or they may simply not be a good match. Whatever the case may be, it’s worth it to keep looking until you find your group. Even if that’s just a subgroup within a larger community 👯

❓ So here’s a question for you: If you happened to go to the Argentine Tolkien Association, who do you think you’d like to hang out with? The official members, or the forum? 🧐

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Timestamps for lazy nerds:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:03:14 How Jose Found the Association
  • 00:07:26 Fitting In
  • 00:12:32 Different Personalities, Same Interest
  • 00:15:43 Feeling Appreciated

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Charisma, Relationships, Where to Meet Nerds

Physical Escalation from Friends to Lovers

by Alex

the Nerd Love Story of Jose and Julian

What does a natural physical escalation look like? ✋ Physical touch varies from person to person, even within a shared culture. Some people see certain things as friendly that for others are way too intimate, or are only comfortable going slower or faster.

🥋 Julian met Jose’s brother learning Tae Kwon-Do. They started hanging out, and later invited Jose to join them. She didn’t think much of it until almost a year later, when they started spending a lot of time together. So much time, in fact, that her friends kept asking if something was going on. She even went on a trip and he was the first person she was texting every day! That’s when she realized that… she might like him 🤔

😱 After the realization set in, the fears showed up: what if it didn’t work and she lost both a partner and the friendship? Fortunately, she was quite sure he liked her back. They were both comfortable with physical touch with each other, which is not always the case.

🎧 If you’ve been wondering how fast is too fast, or if there’s a right or wrong way to break the physical barrier with someone, give this episode a listen!

Timestamps for lazy nerds:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:00:56 Her Brother’s Friend
  • 00:04:02 Hanging Out 1-on-1
  • 00:07:40 Fears Around Liking Your Friend
  • 00:15:23 Leaving the Friend Zone
  • 00:19:58 Breaking the Touch Barrier
  • 00:25:41 Differences in Styles of Physical Touch
  • 00:33:49 Checking if They’re Comfortable
  • 00:37:07 Testing for Interest

💬 To practice your Conversation Skills with me every month for FREE, go to https://www.datelikeanerd.com/improv

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Dating, Love, Nerd Love Stories, Relationships

Shy meets Socially Anxious, and Going Slow

by Alex

the Nerd Love Story of Steven and Christin

Do you need to go fast to “avoid the friendzone”? But what if you’re shy? And what if they’re socially anxious? Fast or slow depends on how comfortable both of you feel. Steven and Christin were close friends for several years before anything happened.

Do you need to go fast to “avoid the friendzone”? But what if you’re shy? And what if they’re socially anxious? Fast or slow depends on how comfortable both of you feel. Steven and Christin were close friends for several years before anything happened.

Sometimes the transition from friends to something more is quick and abrupt. Other times, it can take months or years of smooth and gradual change. 🧘‍♂️

🏘️ Even though they grew up in a small German village of 600 people, Steven only remembers becoming aware of Christin around his teenage years. But it wasn’t until many years later, when he left to study and came back to visit, that their deep friendship turned into a romantic relationship.

🎧 Listen to this story if you feel rushed by the common dating advice that gives you a specific number of dates before you end up in the “friend zone”!

Timestamps for lazy nerds:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:00:26 Steven’s Hobbies
  • 00:01:32 Growing Up In a Small Village
  • 00:03:01 Are Your Hobbies A Turn-Off?
  • 00:05:20 Becoming Close Friends
  • 00:06:22 Changing Cities
  • 00:07:45 From Friends to Lovers
  • 00:11:52 Taking Your Time
  • 00:14:29 Shy, Introverts, and Social Anxiety
  • 00:16:38 Do Dating Tactics and Strategies Work?
  • 00:19:10 How Long Does It Take?
  • 00:22:31 Leveling Up Your True Self
  • 00:28:42 Be Confident and Know What You Want
  • 00:30:48 Steven’s Contact

To work with Steven and Christin, visit https://www.limitlessleap.com/

💬 To practice your Conversation Skills with me every month for FREE, go to https://www.datelikeanerd.com/improv

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: Dating, Love, Nerd Love Stories, Relationships, shy, Vulnerability

Attached, by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller

by Alex

In RPGs, do you tend to play a Tank, close to the action and making sure all the monsters are focused on you, or do you prefer to be a Healer and stay far away so you don’t take damage? Most people choose DPS-focused characters (damage dealers), able to play at both short and long range.

And IRL, how close do you prefer to be to your relationships? Do you want to see others all the time, need to stay in touch constantly, often worried that they might walk away? In other words, have people described you as clingy or needy?

Or do you prefer to live life on your own, with some occasional contact but not having your relationships getting in the way? Are you the one labeling others as clingy or needy? Most people, though, are okay with both being close to others and being by themselves.

Attachment Theory describes these different approaches we have to our close relationships (and more!). And although Amir Levine and Rachel Heller do a great job at explaining it in their book Attached, let me butcher it for you using some RPG analogies:

Solo vs. Party

How OP are you?

It’s easy to kill a few rats during the tutorial of an RPG as a solo player. But you can’t beat a raid boss unless you’re OP, which is not the case for most of us. And it lacks most of the fun of playing with others, anyway.

In real life, we tend to pair up and join parties to go on more Quests. We can depend on others, and they can depend on us. We just know we’ll have more fun with them than if we exclusively did things by ourselves.

Medieval illustration of a town
Your Secure Base is your Town

And the more you trust your teammates, the more confidence you will have to go out and explore on your own. You know that whatever happens, they’ll have your back. This is called a Secure Base in Attachment Theory. It functions as a Town in an RPG: It’s where you can go back to recover, get new items, skills, and it’s a place safe from any monsters. A Secure Base is not actually a place, though. It’s a feeling you have with those in your life who fulfill that role.

But what happens when you’re afraid these attachment figures might be unavailable when you go out exploring dungeons? The Attachment System gets triggered.

How close do you get?

“The attachment system, consists of emotions and behaviors that ensure that we remain safe and protected by staying close to our loved ones.” It’s the way we react to feeling like we’re about to lose that Town to minions of the BBEG, or if our Party can’t help us kill those monsters while making sure we survive the fight.

Often the goal of RPGs is killing monsters. So let’s use the distance to those enemies as the distance you need to feel like you’re comfortably playing the game of attachment. After all, most of us want attachment figures, whether they’re parents, partners, friends, groups of belonging, or even pets. That’s the point of the game. However, not everyone enjoys having the same distance between themselves and their attachment figures.

Skeleton, Knight, Barbarian and Cleric as Attachment figure, Anxious (Tank), Secure (DPS), Avoidant (Healer)

If you’re a Tank (Anxious Attachment, a.k.a. Preoccupied), you’ll want to stay as close as possible to the action. As soon as the monsters look away to another player, you’ll do everything in your power to get them to focus their attention back on you. You will also trust that others will do the actual damage and healing. You’re pretty bad at both.

If you’re a Healer (Avoidant Attachment, a.k.a. Dismissive), you might want to keep a lot of distance to make sure you’re not hurt. You’ve learned that getting too close could mean harm. If any monsters go near you, you’ll likely run, teleport, or become invisible until you’re back at a safe spot. You might also think everyone else is an idiot who should stop taking so much damage, and why can’t the Tank just go somewhere else rather than stand next to you?! Enemies might target you and you might end up taking damage!

DPS (Secure Attachment) players tend to be comfortable with being close or far, healing, dealing damage, and protecting themselves. They may not excel at any, but they believe in their own Skills to do it all, as well as trusting the rest of the team to take care of them when push comes to shove.

Although much less common, n00bs (Disorganized Attachment, a.k.a. Fearful) haven’t had a chance to learn the game mechanics yet. They want to join in the fun but are afraid of their character dying. The way they use their skills might also be erratic. And it is. In a panic, they press any and all buttons. Even if that means hurting their own Party.

Choose Your Destiny

How you see yourself and those around you (a.k.a. your attachment figures) is called a Working Model of Self and Others. It “is a phrase that describes our basic belief system when it comes to (…) relationships. (…) The first order of business, therefore, is to become aware of the working model that governs your relationship behavior.” Attachment Style questionnaires measure your insecurity in both areas, resulting in your main Attachment Style for your different relationships.

If you don’t trust yourself, and others seem to have all the answers, your Attachment System will be triggered when you feel they could be inaccessible (Anxious Attachment). If you only trust yourself but not others (Avoidant Attachment), you’d rather stay independent and might want to have your own space (physically and/or emotionally).

If you tend to trust both (Secure Attachment) you’ll be comfortable being vulnerable and close as well as setting your boundaries. If you don’t trust either (Disorganized Attachment), you’ll likely have a harder time finding the right distance because you’re afraid of getting close, though you’d like to.

Wizard
Protect the 4 HP Wizard!

Of course, this also changes depending on who’s around you. If you’re playing with a Wizard who’s great at dealing damage but has only 4 HP, you might want to play a character closer to a Tank, keeping all the attention on you while they’re safe dealing damage. When everyone around you has masochistic tendencies, you might see yourself as the only rational player to bring some healing spells and stay far away. After all, only living characters can loot. Especially if you respawn far away.

If you’re about to yell at me that most characters aren’t 100% Tanks, Healers, or DPS, and that everyone has a certain level of n00bness in them, you’re right. Wizards might be able to deal a lot of damage but tend to be extremely weak so they better stay at the back next to the Healer. Paladins can heal themselves, and Clerics can deal quite a lot of damage. Everyone has a bit of every style in them, making it a spectrum instead of a perfect definition. The question is how much of each you have.

For more fun, Multi-Class!

While all playing styles have skills that might be useful, “the best predictor of happiness (…) is a secure attachment style.” So… should everyone else rage quit and uninstall the game? Not really.

In the same way that our Attachment Styles can slightly change depending on who’s around us, our overall Working Model can change with the different experiences we have throughout our lives. A Quest that ended in a TPK (Total Party Kill) can make us feel insecure about ourselves or others, leading to a Tank or Healer style of playing even if we always had DPS characters up until then. Repeat that a few times, and you might end up with an overall insecure attachment style.

On the other hand, we can always multi-class and learn DPS skills and strategies (even as a Tank, Healer, or n00b) that will get us closer to being great at playing solo or with others. This often involves taking the time to learn from other secure players (friends, family, partners, or therapists). This is called Earned Security, and it can be achieved by everyone with a bit of grinding and experiencing secure attachments.

A DPS Tutorial

In this grimoire, Amir Levine and Rachel Heller will take you through all the steps necessary to start Multi-Classing to a more Secure type of attachment in your romantic relationships. However, Attachment Theory can be applied to almost any part of your life. So regardless of the status of your Party, give it a read. Once you learn the ways you (and others) are insecure, you’ll gain some awesome skills to play the attachment game.


Next Step: Dive Deeper into Attachment Theory with this blog series!

ATTACHMENT FIGURES: YOUR TOWNS

If you want to discover your Attachment Style with your most important relationships, take this questionnaire and then let us know your results below! Does it make sense to you? What steps do you plan to take?

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Related Grimoires:

  • A Secure Base, by John Bowlby
  • Attachment in Adulthood, by Mario Mikulincer and Phillip R. Shaver
  • Dynamics of Romantic Love, by Mario Mikulincer and Gail S. Goodman
  • Attachment Theory Expanded, by Mario Mikulincer and Phillip R. Shaver
  • Attachment in Psychotherapy, by David J. Wallin
  • Wired for Dating, by Stan Tatkin, Harville Hendrix, and Helen LaKelly Hunt

More (Great) Stuff:

  • Attachment Deep Dive, by Psychology in Seattle

Filed Under: Grimoires Tagged With: Attachment, Dating, Emotions, Love, Relationships

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